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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maru, have you tried the Voicethreads tool?</description>
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		<title>By: Maru del Campo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maru del Campo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nancy and everyone!

Thanks for placing the post with so much clarity and thanks all for commenting on what you do to catch up.  This are practical ideas a learner can follow and try to implement.

I want to tell you Nancy that I came here from the EVO09 moderators training session, your post was quoted or those who felt burning up.  When I saw your name I happily came to read.

The situation I have in Mexico with my teenagers is that they are not used to receive email so when they receive 6 or 7 emails in a row they get scared, shout laud &quot;overload&quot; and start to retreat.  They don&#039;t like to read.  They also don&#039;t respond to participating with mics, they refuse to take the mic even among peers.  They are so used to write in their strange language with signs and icons at hotmail chat that is almost impossible to get them writing a few lines in a row. 

If you come up with an idea using audio, just listening, please let me know.  The kids are going that way and if someone finds a solution or discovers how to deliver content in audio form, I bet he or she will get rich!

See you around!  Besos.  Maru</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nancy and everyone!</p>
<p>Thanks for placing the post with so much clarity and thanks all for commenting on what you do to catch up.  This are practical ideas a learner can follow and try to implement.</p>
<p>I want to tell you Nancy that I came here from the EVO09 moderators training session, your post was quoted or those who felt burning up.  When I saw your name I happily came to read.</p>
<p>The situation I have in Mexico with my teenagers is that they are not used to receive email so when they receive 6 or 7 emails in a row they get scared, shout laud &#8220;overload&#8221; and start to retreat.  They don&#8217;t like to read.  They also don&#8217;t respond to participating with mics, they refuse to take the mic even among peers.  They are so used to write in their strange language with signs and icons at hotmail chat that is almost impossible to get them writing a few lines in a row. </p>
<p>If you come up with an idea using audio, just listening, please let me know.  The kids are going that way and if someone finds a solution or discovers how to deliver content in audio form, I bet he or she will get rich!</p>
<p>See you around!  Besos.  Maru</p>
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		<title>By: LaDonna Coy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaDonna Coy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy ... here I am again, &quot;catching up&quot; on this blog post that I wanted to get to much sooner than now but alas.  

As I think of the strategies I use in terms e.g., make an appointment with myself, set the timer, scan rather than read, skip over past portions, jump in at the current place only looking back when necessary for context or clarity, and still I often feel overwhelmed and rushed with little time for thinking about what I am reading - which means I too often .. shoot from the hip .. or should I say &quot;lip&quot;. Bron&#039;s blog strategy is a wonderful help and still I have to READ all the content I consume and metabolize.

Here&#039;s a real time scenario (from last week) I spent 11 hours on the road driving this past week (not counting airport time) and while I listened to other content on my iPod (been reading, uh,listening to the book, Influencer by Patterson)  ... I had no way to use that time to catch up on CCK08.  I remembered your question and wondered ... what if we could have an audio feed on a site? Something I could either stream on my computer, download and listen to on my iPod and wouldn&#039;t it be great if it pushed to the mobile phone so I could have it no matter whether I am connected via computer?

Does anyone else find reading as the way to consume difficult to fit into a schedule? As I&#039;ve been writing this post an idea popped for me.  We may actually have a solution like this in Utterli (http://www.utterli.com/)? Would it be of as much value to others as I think it would be to me? Would people be willing to use it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy &#8230; here I am again, &#8220;catching up&#8221; on this blog post that I wanted to get to much sooner than now but alas.  </p>
<p>As I think of the strategies I use in terms e.g., make an appointment with myself, set the timer, scan rather than read, skip over past portions, jump in at the current place only looking back when necessary for context or clarity, and still I often feel overwhelmed and rushed with little time for thinking about what I am reading &#8211; which means I too often .. shoot from the hip .. or should I say &#8220;lip&#8221;. Bron&#8217;s blog strategy is a wonderful help and still I have to READ all the content I consume and metabolize.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a real time scenario (from last week) I spent 11 hours on the road driving this past week (not counting airport time) and while I listened to other content on my iPod (been reading, uh,listening to the book, Influencer by Patterson)  &#8230; I had no way to use that time to catch up on CCK08.  I remembered your question and wondered &#8230; what if we could have an audio feed on a site? Something I could either stream on my computer, download and listen to on my iPod and wouldn&#8217;t it be great if it pushed to the mobile phone so I could have it no matter whether I am connected via computer?</p>
<p>Does anyone else find reading as the way to consume difficult to fit into a schedule? As I&#8217;ve been writing this post an idea popped for me.  We may actually have a solution like this in Utterli (<a href="http://www.utterli.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.utterli.com/</a>)? Would it be of as much value to others as I think it would be to me? Would people be willing to use it?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bron, yup, we need to talk about it up front, but there is also that trickiness of how MUCH other things we talk about up front and the disconnect between the IDEA of overwhelm,and the crushing EXPERIENCE of it. 

We say yeah, yeah, we&#039;ll manage. But when it hits, I think the &quot;flee&quot; instinct kicks in! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bron, yup, we need to talk about it up front, but there is also that trickiness of how MUCH other things we talk about up front and the disconnect between the IDEA of overwhelm,and the crushing EXPERIENCE of it. </p>
<p>We say yeah, yeah, we&#8217;ll manage. But when it hits, I think the &#8220;flee&#8221; instinct kicks in! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Bron Stuckey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bron Stuckey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one thing that is overlooked in these suggestions and strategies is timing. It would be good to discuss these issues early and arm people with strategies rather than offer a &quot;fix&quot; when a problem arises. Create the infrastructure and understanding ahead of the challenge and it might never be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one thing that is overlooked in these suggestions and strategies is timing. It would be good to discuss these issues early and arm people with strategies rather than offer a &#8220;fix&#8221; when a problem arises. Create the infrastructure and understanding ahead of the challenge and it might never be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: How Can You Catch Up in an Online Course &#124; Workplace Learning Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Can You Catch Up in an Online Course &#124; Workplace Learning Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/09/11/catch-up-strategies-in-online-courses/comment-page-1/#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, absolutely good suggestions and there is no question that we can include technological and &quot;old fashioned&quot; strategies. I realized I had been thinking in terms of how I/a learner feels about falling behind, rather than thinking quantitatively or qualitatively about the course from a content perspective. But yet it is often content that triggers the fallback (overload.)

Leigh, I wonder what would change in our workshop and course designs if we stopped and included specific catch up phases? There is a niggling thought in that for me, in that when I design and lead a workshop, I am rarely remunerated for the number of hours I put in, so this feels too like &quot;adding more work.&quot; I hate to admit it. I applaud your intent to limit your time in facilitating the FOC08 course. I don&#039;t think I have your discipline!

This leads to your observation, Shirley, about having/practices strategies overall as learners. One course won&#039;t solve that, but I love the idea of the topic as a focus for both course designers, facilitators and learners to develop those practices!!

Sue, thanks for reminding me that I did not reference the two courses, and that context would have been helpful in the course. I&#039;m going to go back and edit the post and include links.  From a design perspective, how much integration do we want to do/can we do, and how much is simply making the flow available and people making choices about the flow?  I think the tag for both of the courses alluded to in this stream have been a really interesting &quot;window in&quot; on the courses for me, but i have not mustered the time and discipline to make a coherent dive into them. So I just catch snippets, like Bron&#039;s post that stimulated me to write this post.  So the idea of subgroups appeals to me.

And yes, one at a time - what a SENSIBLE strategy!! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, absolutely good suggestions and there is no question that we can include technological and &#8220;old fashioned&#8221; strategies. I realized I had been thinking in terms of how I/a learner feels about falling behind, rather than thinking quantitatively or qualitatively about the course from a content perspective. But yet it is often content that triggers the fallback (overload.)</p>
<p>Leigh, I wonder what would change in our workshop and course designs if we stopped and included specific catch up phases? There is a niggling thought in that for me, in that when I design and lead a workshop, I am rarely remunerated for the number of hours I put in, so this feels too like &#8220;adding more work.&#8221; I hate to admit it. I applaud your intent to limit your time in facilitating the FOC08 course. I don&#8217;t think I have your discipline!</p>
<p>This leads to your observation, Shirley, about having/practices strategies overall as learners. One course won&#8217;t solve that, but I love the idea of the topic as a focus for both course designers, facilitators and learners to develop those practices!!</p>
<p>Sue, thanks for reminding me that I did not reference the two courses, and that context would have been helpful in the course. I&#8217;m going to go back and edit the post and include links.  From a design perspective, how much integration do we want to do/can we do, and how much is simply making the flow available and people making choices about the flow?  I think the tag for both of the courses alluded to in this stream have been a really interesting &#8220;window in&#8221; on the courses for me, but i have not mustered the time and discipline to make a coherent dive into them. So I just catch snippets, like Bron&#8217;s post that stimulated me to write this post.  So the idea of subgroups appeals to me.</p>
<p>And yes, one at a time &#8211; what a SENSIBLE strategy!! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two online courses that Bron is involved in require participants to write blog posts to reflect on their learning.  So the key for her greatest learning is to be able to connect easily with the other participants and all collaborate, share and network with each other.  

While email forums and discussions boards help in some ways what would help the most is if all the RSS feeds from the participants posts are brought into the one location where participants could easily read each others posts, comment and reflect.  This way the group could work easier as a community to learn.  Takes a bit of coordination and use of the same tags but can work. 

Obviously with Leigh&#039;s course this is easier to achieve however with the sheer number of people doing CCK08 I would try and set up a community with a smaller subset of the participants. 

My only other thoughts are after doing two very intensive online projects in the past year -- I personally think it is better to do one course and do it really well since two could quite easily be too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two online courses that Bron is involved in require participants to write blog posts to reflect on their learning.  So the key for her greatest learning is to be able to connect easily with the other participants and all collaborate, share and network with each other.  </p>
<p>While email forums and discussions boards help in some ways what would help the most is if all the RSS feeds from the participants posts are brought into the one location where participants could easily read each others posts, comment and reflect.  This way the group could work easier as a community to learn.  Takes a bit of coordination and use of the same tags but can work. </p>
<p>Obviously with Leigh&#8217;s course this is easier to achieve however with the sheer number of people doing CCK08 I would try and set up a community with a smaller subset of the participants. </p>
<p>My only other thoughts are after doing two very intensive online projects in the past year &#8212; I personally think it is better to do one course and do it really well since two could quite easily be too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My big problem is I have this real urge to read everything. I am trying to train myself that this is not possible, but I find it hard to know what not to read.

One thing I really like about the Connected Futures workshop was that there was specific mention of what to do (or not do) if you were time challenged.

But I suspect that learners ultimately need strategies that work for them and cannot rely on others to solve the problem, but maybe it is something that people can learn. Perhaps there should be an online course on Catch up Strategies for Online course – or coping with Information Overload in the Digital World.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My big problem is I have this real urge to read everything. I am trying to train myself that this is not possible, but I find it hard to know what not to read.</p>
<p>One thing I really like about the Connected Futures workshop was that there was specific mention of what to do (or not do) if you were time challenged.</p>
<p>But I suspect that learners ultimately need strategies that work for them and cannot rely on others to solve the problem, but maybe it is something that people can learn. Perhaps there should be an online course on Catch up Strategies for Online course – or coping with Information Overload in the Digital World.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Blackall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, very helpful post Nancy. Bron&#039;s post really does touch on something hey. I am observing a bit of a slump in the FOC08 course, probably partly due to CCK08 (darn those a-listers) and partly due to a possible over site on my part as to the pace of the course schedule, and very much due to my self imposed 5-10 hour per week limit for the course. Hopefully it come back, but I might have to do some one to one encouragement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, very helpful post Nancy. Bron&#8217;s post really does touch on something hey. I am observing a bit of a slump in the FOC08 course, probably partly due to CCK08 (darn those a-listers) and partly due to a possible over site on my part as to the pace of the course schedule, and very much due to my self imposed 5-10 hour per week limit for the course. Hopefully it come back, but I might have to do some one to one encouragement&#8230;</p>
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