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	<title>Comments on: The Girl Effect &#8211; catalyzing positive change</title>
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		<title>By: David Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6796</link>
		<dc:creator>David Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simply powerful and very well done. thank you for pouring your passion and heart into this.  it has impacted me and inspired me to act</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tēnā kōrua, Laura and Nancy,

I have always believed that this is a complex issue - not new to me, but complex!

You have picked up my message, Nancy. Spot on in fact. I believe that charity begins at home. The apportionment of personal funds/resources/assistance (but not necessarily just money) can be a controversial issue in itself.

I note, with some trepidation, the billions - no, trillions - of dollars coming from western government coffers to support the western (global?) financial plight. But even this is complex, for the economies of other less prosperous countries hinge on the world economies.

The haves and the have-nots. Probably, and it would be unfortunate, these will always exist.

This year, my youngest daughter (14y) went on a mission to Fiji, with a group of like-minded young people from our local church. I deliberated for ages on whether the fare money and other expenses for this mission should not have just been passed along to the needy in Fiji, instead of assisting the mission. I still wonder about that. But I&#039;m also not sure of what is right in these circumstances. Who does know? It is a very personal thing.

Catchya later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tēnā kōrua, Laura and Nancy,</p>
<p>I have always believed that this is a complex issue &#8211; not new to me, but complex!</p>
<p>You have picked up my message, Nancy. Spot on in fact. I believe that charity begins at home. The apportionment of personal funds/resources/assistance (but not necessarily just money) can be a controversial issue in itself.</p>
<p>I note, with some trepidation, the billions &#8211; no, trillions &#8211; of dollars coming from western government coffers to support the western (global?) financial plight. But even this is complex, for the economies of other less prosperous countries hinge on the world economies.</p>
<p>The haves and the have-nots. Probably, and it would be unfortunate, these will always exist.</p>
<p>This year, my youngest daughter (14y) went on a mission to Fiji, with a group of like-minded young people from our local church. I deliberated for ages on whether the fare money and other expenses for this mission should not have just been passed along to the needy in Fiji, instead of assisting the mission. I still wonder about that. But I&#8217;m also not sure of what is right in these circumstances. Who does know? It is a very personal thing.</p>
<p>Catchya later</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura - I think you are raising a really important, overlapping, but separate point. Overconsumption (starting with me, yes, I know!) in the West has a cascade effect on development globally. It is not sustainable. 

But my experience has shown this is not just about higher standards of living from a consumer perspective, but about basic rights of clean water, food, shelter and education. AND, about a girl/woman having respect and not be treated as property herself. 

This is complex and your caution reminds us not to oversimplify it. And the importance of change the world and start at home. Both in terms of our own consumption and the support we give girls in our lives, every day. Like Ken is noting in his comment.

Sugunasri, I guess I should have used the word &quot;learning&quot; -- which can be anything, including learning to live into our own passions (yes, Cristina!). Education implies the formal - and often patriarchal.  Learning, in my mind, would encompass everything you noted. 

Beth - amen to freedom to choose! And even better, the knowledge to make choices early that create less anguish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura &#8211; I think you are raising a really important, overlapping, but separate point. Overconsumption (starting with me, yes, I know!) in the West has a cascade effect on development globally. It is not sustainable. </p>
<p>But my experience has shown this is not just about higher standards of living from a consumer perspective, but about basic rights of clean water, food, shelter and education. AND, about a girl/woman having respect and not be treated as property herself. </p>
<p>This is complex and your caution reminds us not to oversimplify it. And the importance of change the world and start at home. Both in terms of our own consumption and the support we give girls in our lives, every day. Like Ken is noting in his comment.</p>
<p>Sugunasri, I guess I should have used the word &#8220;learning&#8221; &#8212; which can be anything, including learning to live into our own passions (yes, Cristina!). Education implies the formal &#8211; and often patriarchal.  Learning, in my mind, would encompass everything you noted. </p>
<p>Beth &#8211; amen to freedom to choose! And even better, the knowledge to make choices early that create less anguish.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6730</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This pisses me off. Why can&#039;t the millions of girls in the West who DO have schools and clean water get their cows and start herds and get on village council - and when they DO all that, why isn&#039;t the world fixed?

And HOW does a girl with 7 years of education have fewer children? Because she&#039;s richer, she&#039;s a consumer, and she doesn&#039;t have TIME for more children.

Raising the standard of living means raising the ecological footprint. Yes it reduces the birth rate, but that is not the point. The point is lowering the ecological footprint.

Never give money to foreign aid organizations. Instead, go and talk to a real girl, in the real place, and do something real, and never mind the preaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This pisses me off. Why can&#8217;t the millions of girls in the West who DO have schools and clean water get their cows and start herds and get on village council &#8211; and when they DO all that, why isn&#8217;t the world fixed?</p>
<p>And HOW does a girl with 7 years of education have fewer children? Because she&#8217;s richer, she&#8217;s a consumer, and she doesn&#8217;t have TIME for more children.</p>
<p>Raising the standard of living means raising the ecological footprint. Yes it reduces the birth rate, but that is not the point. The point is lowering the ecological footprint.</p>
<p>Never give money to foreign aid organizations. Instead, go and talk to a real girl, in the real place, and do something real, and never mind the preaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristina Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it.Thanks so much for sharing! 

Passion seems to be the key/People who are proud and carry out their job with care - that&#039;s the way forward.It used to be called vocation.  It should not come as a surprise thought, but these days it&#039;s so rare.. that&#039;s a shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it.Thanks so much for sharing! </p>
<p>Passion seems to be the key/People who are proud and carry out their job with care &#8211; that&#8217;s the way forward.It used to be called vocation.  It should not come as a surprise thought, but these days it&#8217;s so rare.. that&#8217;s a shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nancy--
Just found your site via Dave Pollard--
I posted the youtube in my facebook and on the website I host.
I worked for Planned Parenthood in the early 1980&#039;s and was convinced at that time, that the accessibility of contraception was one of the most important factors in changing global poverty.  This project takes the discussion to the next level.  Thank you so much!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nancy&#8211;<br />
Just found your site via Dave Pollard&#8211;<br />
I posted the youtube in my facebook and on the website I host.<br />
I worked for Planned Parenthood in the early 1980&#8242;s and was convinced at that time, that the accessibility of contraception was one of the most important factors in changing global poverty.  This project takes the discussion to the next level.  Thank you so much!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sugunasri maddala</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6648</link>
		<dc:creator>Sugunasri maddala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was still thinking about the `girl effect&#039; over my cup of coffee and it occurred to me that it need not be always `education&#039;, it could be even enlightenment ...sorry it sounds too big a word. Awareness creation, motivation through live real examples of success stories and improving emotional intelligence will be a better approach. Very often education is being overemphasized and is becoming counter productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was still thinking about the `girl effect&#8217; over my cup of coffee and it occurred to me that it need not be always `education&#8217;, it could be even enlightenment &#8230;sorry it sounds too big a word. Awareness creation, motivation through live real examples of success stories and improving emotional intelligence will be a better approach. Very often education is being overemphasized and is becoming counter productive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sugunasri maddala</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6645</link>
		<dc:creator>Sugunasri maddala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked `girl-effect&#039;. It is not new for us. Our Gandhi ji advocated the same long ago and it started about 60 years back in our family. But I very much liked the way it is told. I now realized the beauty of a presentation sans pictures.

By the way, I am investing in one... I hope to support others in future.

In India there are people who desert girl babies...but there are also couples who fondly opt to adopt girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked `girl-effect&#8217;. It is not new for us. Our Gandhi ji advocated the same long ago and it started about 60 years back in our family. But I very much liked the way it is told. I now realized the beauty of a presentation sans pictures.</p>
<p>By the way, I am investing in one&#8230; I hope to support others in future.</p>
<p>In India there are people who desert girl babies&#8230;but there are also couples who fondly opt to adopt girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcirc.com/2008/11/24/the-girl-effect-catalyzing-positive-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora Nancy

I&#039;m investing in &lt;a href=&quot;http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2008/09/technology-good-or-bad-who-decides.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two of those&lt;/a&gt;.

Ka kite
from Middle-earth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Nancy</p>
<p>I&#8217;m investing in <a href="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2008/09/technology-good-or-bad-who-decides.html" rel="nofollow">two of those</a>.</p>
<p>Ka kite<br />
from Middle-earth</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raincoaster - I hear ya!

Bev, how much of our &quot;ignoring of the data&quot; has to do with our own national and institutional sexism and how much to do with the nature of patriarchal and tribal societies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raincoaster &#8211; I hear ya!</p>
<p>Bev, how much of our &#8220;ignoring of the data&#8221; has to do with our own national and institutional sexism and how much to do with the nature of patriarchal and tribal societies?</p>
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