Joined on 9 June 2011 at 8:52 AM Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram: [9:07:05 AM] Nancy White: FYI, i'm not back to my room yet, but close - picking up dinner to have afterwards. So I;ll be there at half past the hour as planned. No worries Pamela McGowan: Morning all :) Moderator (Jenny Smith): Hi Everyone, this session will start the over at 10am, and Nancy White's session will start at 10.30am, feel free to test your audio then go a grab a cuppa, and come back just before 10am, see you then :-) Jo Hart: Hi @Pam how is Arnhem Land this am? Pamela McGowan: Really beautiful - nice cool breeze, sun is shining - paradise = should sit and do these sessions outside Pamela McGowan: how's WA looking Pamela McGowan: ? Jo Hart: This part of WA a bit chilly, cloudy, breezy this morning Pamela McGowan: hmm...you do miss winter out here sometimes but in the summer holidays we normally go somewhere where it is freezing (like Tasmania, NZ and North America) Pamela McGowan: so jealous - I want to move to Seattle Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram: ok Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram: brill Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram: lol, sure Moderator (Jenny Smith) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram: sounds good Jo Hart: I like the hot weather - don't like cold at all. Even winter here is a bit cooler than I really like but at least the occasional frost lets our cherries and raspberries fruit most of the time Pamela McGowan: My husband lived in Iceland for two years and he'd love to go live in Barow in Alaska Pamela McGowan: He's a dual US/Oz citizen Pamela McGowan: His family actually lives in Washington state - a couple of hours away from Seattle Jo Hart: Brr! I think mine too would be happy in cold climate but definitely not for me! We are both dual UK/Aus husband born here tho we only came to Aus 10 years ago, after we visited (1st time for me) & it seemed silly to stay in miserable wet climate with too many people & too much traffic Pamela McGowan: nice Pamela McGowan: Seattle is great for the Starbucks...sugar with a dash of coffee Jo Hart: @Frankie LOL I thought Tassie nearly as bad as UK? Jo Hart: Good evening Nancy Pamela McGowan: G'Day Nancy Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: yes it does Jo Hart: It may be size of images causing problems Jo Hart: You may be able to use the openoffice loader. Moderator (Jenny Smith) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Mic is still on Nancy Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Moderator (Nancy White): I'm cool here (well, its 38 C so hot in another sense!) Moderator (Nancy White): Thats cool Moderator (Nancy White): I think we're good to go! Hiya Jyothi Pamela McGowan: How are the Mariners playing at the moment? Moderator (Jenny Smith) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: I just saved as Jpegs they do the same :-( Moderator (Nancy White): There is some cut off yes. At first it was cutting off more. But it looks fine now Moderator (Nancy White): (I'm experiencing some lag here, FYI) Moderator (Nancy White): Great Moderator (Nancy White): Time for a sammy here before we're a go! Moderator (Nancy White): (And lots of water. Not used to Washington DC heat!) Moderator (Jenny Smith) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Thanks Frankie & Nancy Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: sounds good Nancy Moderator (Nancy White): no video, right? Moderator (Jenny Smith) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: if you have videos at your end you can run them Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: good point Moderator (Nancy White): Great. I'll be ready Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Just video to wave hello Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: No , just webcam to say hello then turn it off Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: sure that's ok Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: happy to do the introd Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: good Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: okiedokie Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Will stage water and chhocolate by my side Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Pouring choolate on screen Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: feel free to delete once you have a virtual bite Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Never underestimate chocoholics Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Heat wave here in DC. Insanely hot and humid Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: YAY Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: chocoholics unite Jo Hart to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: My choc is one I "gave" to @SueWaters at one of our webinar Chrismas parties Jo Hart: My choc is one I "gave" to @SueWaters at one of our webinar Chrismas parties Moderator (Jenny Smith): Welcome everyone, we are setting up the room and will start the overview in a few moments, Nancy White's session will start at 10.30am :-) Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: mmmmmm Pamela McGowan: My grandmother-in-law loves white chocolate so it is something we always pack in the bags when we go to America Jo Hart: I took the pic so I didn't have to deal with any copyright probs - often find taking my own is the best solution as copyright such a minefireld Stony River 1 to Nancy White: Welcome Nancy - http://tny.gs/inoE0b ;-)(-; Moderator (Nancy White) to Frankie Forsyth, Jenny Smith, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: I see some familiar "faces!" Moderator (Nancy White): I "see" some familiar faces! Moderator (Nancy White): Thanks, Stony! Moderator (Jenny Smith): @Jo, yes so true, we have a recording of a great Egems session that covered copyright, check it out at http://www.flexiblelearning.net.au/content/d-copyright-context-24-march-2011 Moderator (Nancy White): We have a leader! Stony River 1 to Nancy White: I could drink a case of You - haven't seen You blip lately ;-):-);-) Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Moderator (Nancy White): I confess I'm eating at the moment. Dinner Moderator (Nancy White): Wow, you are way out there! Awesome! Moderator (Jenny Smith): Wow Pamela, sounds interesting Moderator (Nancy White): You are deep in the natural world! Wow Moderator (Nancy White): I'm in Washington DC today, but my home is Seattle, Washington (we call it the "real" Washington) Pamela McGowan: the joys of ADSL2 at home Pamela McGowan: My husband's family is around Centralia Moderator (Nancy White): Lucky woman I wish I had that at home Moderator (Nancy White): Wow, just down the road (I guess I keep saying wow) Moderator (Jenny Smith): double digits yey! Moderator (Nancy White): Go up to Darwin! Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol @Nancy - my guility pleasure is the TV show 'Housewives of DC .. lol .. Pamela McGowan: Yeah - I love Seattle - fantastic vibe there Moderator (Jenny Smith): @Nancy, we wish rose grozdanic: hi everyone :-) Moderator (Jenny Smith): Hi Rose Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): would love to @nancy, if I can :( Moderator (Nancy White): Well, one day, maybe we can space time travel. Hi Rose rose grozdanic: :-) thanks rose grozdanic: no thanks :-) Deborah Chadwick 1: Hi everyone. This is Deborah. It is cool here in Queensland, too rose grozdanic: i'm going to concentrate on not dropping out rose grozdanic: have got dsl instead of wireless rose grozdanic: turn it off rose grozdanic: thanks Kathleen Zarubin 1: Hi Deb - I'm in Qld (Brissy - and it is COLD!) Moderator (Nancy White): Even cold in Qld, eh? Moderator (Nancy White): What kind of blanket? Kathleen Zarubin 1: no choice - can't open the drawers lol :( Pamela McGowan: It's a bit hot here - I'm going to turn the fan on and the air con up :) Stony River 1: ~ Wonderfully Warm here near Kakadu :-);-):-) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): got big shoulders Jo Hart: Hmm! you must be getting the rain we had nearly two weeks ago Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): i think so jo Kathleen Zarubin 1: I call it my 'nanna' blanket - lol Moderator (Nancy White): I think next time I make it to AU, I need to get up North again Kathleen Zarubin 1: small and sits over my kness :) Moderator (Nancy White): Ah, that makes sense. Nanna blanket! Moderator (Nancy White): Early hours - familiar! 5:30 am seems to happen a lot for me on US West coast and my collaborators in Europe and Africa Kathleen Zarubin 1: like that comment "quite civilisized' :) Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Moderator (Nancy White): Space is a beautiful thing. Stony River 1: about Internet marriages - http://bit.ly/cAGKNN :-) Moderator (Nancy White): You didn't know, the preso is actually on chocolate. ;-) Stony River 1: like Marvin yesterday ;-) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): oh goody!! Jo Hart: Hi Sarah rose grozdanic: tes Sarah Stewart: Hello everyone rose grozdanic: test Pamela McGowan: So Nancy, what is your ultimate choc brand - I like the sweets at Chukah Cherries Gisele Santambrogio 1: mmm hot chocolate with marshmallows would be nice Jo Hart: @Sarah thankyou for retweeting the #ere2011 Sarah Stewart: yep, thats right :) Kathleen Zarubin 1: I got soem 'vitual' choc pressies yesterday for my birthday - was just as nice and not os much 'damage' lol Moderator (Nancy White): Pamela, they make nice sweeties. Right now for local, Seattle chocolate, I like Theo chocolate Moderator (Nancy White): What is the hashtag again please? Pamela McGowan: #ere2011 Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): #ere2011 Jo Hart: @Sarah you are a little quiet Moderator (Nancy White): Hi Sarah! Sarah Stewart: thats right...blame the kiwi/pom!! Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): lol Stony River 1: the reality =Global Cooling :-) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): beautiful tassie Tony Ratcliffe: Wine time? Moderator (Nancy White): yeah! Moderator (Nancy White): I have a glass of white wine in the little hotel fridge for post preso/converstaion Tony Ratcliffe: Mine is chilled for once I get my wife from work. Cheers! Jo Hart: @Sarah well the also considered blaming the Aussie/pom here in WA - everyone usually gets our weather :) Moderator (Nancy White): You know what they say is the key to a long lasting relationship, he?.... establishing the blame right up front! Jo Hart: @Nancy LOL - I always just say "it wasn't me I didn't do it" the moment someone approaches my desk Stony River 1: @Nancy - sounds religious ;-) Stony River 1: Cute :-) Jo Hart: Hi Janice Moderator (Jenny Smith): The Mishme session was FANTASTIC! A Must SEE Pamela McGowan: @Jenny Agree! Moderator (Jenny Smith): @ Pamela lol :-) Jo Hart: All the sessions were fantastic - my tweeting fingers ran red hot on #ere2011 Moderator (Jenny Smith): Thanks Jo, RT some of your tweets, and learnt a LOT about twitter in the twitter session, can't wait to practice Stony River 1: Marvin is multi-cultural Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Jo is doing a fantastic job Pamela McGowan: Follow the feed using a tool like TweetDeck Stony River 1: @Nancy - too much choco in that pic Kathleen Zarubin 1: I am also adding 'sticky notes' to the program as way of recording my participation for my required Professional development log / evidence .. Stony River 1: Let's Party ;-) Pamela McGowan: @Kathleen are you using Diigo for that? Kathleen Zarubin 1: oh no @Pam .. - just downloaded the pdf and adding notes on that ... Moderator (Nancy White): I decided to dance instead of marching! Moderator (Nancy White): We'll use our eyes too. I promise Stony River 1: and Soul rose grozdanic: same room or different room? Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): same room Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol very cute idea Pamela McGowan: yum! Moderator (Nancy White): Soul, Rose. YES Gisele Santambrogio 1: 5 minute chocolate cake in a mug recipe Moderator (Nancy White): Like that mug full of chocolate souffle! mmm Moderator (Nancy White): Recipe please? Jo Hart: Anyone on Twtitter atm @Nancy has asked a question for #ere2011 KerryJ: Share recipe via a Google doc? Moderator (Nancy White): Good eyes, Jo! Gisele Santambrogio 1: http://allrecipes.com.au/recipe/9198/5-minute-chocolate-mug-cake.aspx recipe for chocolate cake in mug] Moderator (Nancy White): We are getting some great answers! Gisele Santambrogio 1: enough time to go whip it up now Moderator (Nancy White): (clicking on recipe link. Thanks) Moderator (Nancy White): LOL' Jo Hart: I have just retweeted @Nancy Jo Hart: Hi Sandra Carole McCulloch: Good morning Nancy, everyone. Carole McCulloch: BRB Stony River 1: the dark side of chocolate - http://bit.ly/cHXeG7 Pamela McGowan: we need a caramello koala for a bit of Aussie flavour Penny Neuendorf 3: charlie and the chocolate factory http://thecia.com.au/reviews/c/images/charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-9.jpg Moderator (Nancy White): She already gave it! We are in! Moderator (Jenny Smith): Hi everyone, stay in this room for Nancy's session, the whiteboard is a little slow to download, so please be patient - it is worth waiting for! :-) rose grozdanic: next time you're there write it down! Jeremy Sorensen: a bit early for chocolate here in WA, just finished my breakfast Moderator (Nancy White): Hm, lets go to India for your mother's cake Gisele Santambrogio 1: melt toblerone in microwave, mix through some dollop cream and serve with cut strawberries, marshmallows, banana lollies Moderator (Nancy White): Jeremy, no chocolate for breakkie? Moderator (Nancy White): Ohhhhh Jeremy Sorensen: welll, I do sneak it in for breaky sometimes Sandra Stewart: Please stop there is an insulin dependant diabetic in the room Carole McCulloch: Elluminate is now embedded ..... Moderator (Jenny Smith): Hmm hot milo with drop of Baileys - great! Kathleen Zarubin 1: LOL Sandra - can u have 'carob' (is that how u spell it? Moderator (Jenny Smith): @Sandra - sorry :-) Moderator (Nancy White): Ah, that is cruel of us... Lesley Cioccarelli 1: I love Elluminate too! KerryJ: Blackboard has locked up Elluminate KerryJ: Now min $10k per year to use with Moodle Sandra Stewart: not really it's more the carbs than sugar i do sneak sometimes Jo Hart: I am total Elluminate junky :) Sandra Stewart: lol better than wimba Moderator (Nancy White): Kerry - that is alarming. We ran into that too for one network. Will have to let it lapse. cost is too high and not enough options for different levels of use. Very sad Kathleen Zarubin 1: @KerryJ - but 'locked up' .. do u mean made too expensive for many ppl? Carole McCulloch to KerryJ: can you send me your email address pls Kathleen Zarubin 1: by - not but - sorry .. Pamela McGowan: I have tweeted a response @Nancy Jo Hart: So much for bbs much flaunted claim that they were still going to work for integrating with other platforms - must admit I have concern for Elluminate future Moderator (Nancy White): Thanks, Pamela! Kathleen Zarubin 1: I love it too Jo ... Do you have yoru own 'subscription' re Elluminate? KerryJ: @ Kathleen - yes I do @Nancy yup - the only option I've seen is Big Blue Button but not done yet Moderator (Nancy White): (I promise to behave. ) Jo Hart: Elluminat eis the platform we have in the TAFE sector in WA - I do also have a vRoom Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): yes, please would like the link again :) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): http://allrecipes.com.au/recipe/9198/5-minute-chocolate-mug-cake.aspx recipe for chocolate cake in mug] Kathleen Zarubin 1 to Jo Hart: Thanks Jo ... I also have a V Office - for 15 ppl paid $400 for a year - but do not think I use it enough? Kathleen Zarubin 1: YES YES YES Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): use #ere2011 if you are tweeting the session or the conference :) Sarah Stewart: we have moved to adobe connect but not loving it at all Kathleen Zarubin 1: I woudl be DELIGHTED to share mine - I HATE the idea of it sitting there idle :( KerryJ: @Sarah - email me please, need to hear that Moderator (Nancy White): Great idea, and relevant to one of the threads I hope to bring up this morning! Stony River 1: an alternative to Elluminate - http://adobe.ly/bbcsPu Carole McCulloch: Hello Sarah Stewart, waving to you from across the sea - Victoria to Otago Kathleen Zarubin 1: should we set up a FB Page? Sarah Stewart: Also use Wimba in another job, and hate that with a passion Kathleen Zarubin 1: oh yes KerryJ: Google Doc Frankie? Moderator (Nancy White): subtle Sue Hickton: morning everyone! Kathleen Zarubin 1: (might have to be a bit ... Sarah Stewart: @Carole, greetings from a lovely sunny but cold Dunedin Moderator (Nancy White): Hi sue Moderator (Nancy White): yes Sandra Stewart: Sarah so do I wimba is hopeless Sue Hickton: so nothing diff then Frankie? :P Sue Hickton: :) Diana Taylor to Sue Hickton: Morning Sue :) KerryJ: Blackboard owns Wimba and will be merging into Elluminate Sue Hickton: starting thu with the Fabo Nancy White - yay! roderick.mcleod 1: Hello fronm freezing Sydney! Sue Hickton to Diana Taylor: hey hun :) Sue Hickton to Diana Taylor: thought that was MY DT Moderator (Nancy White): I' ready Moderator (Nancy White): I'm ready. Just can't type Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): :) Moderator (Nancy White): Imaginary frends Diana Taylor to Sue Hickton: Sure is :) hope you are well :) Moderator (Nancy White): friends Moderator (Nancy White): Emphasize learner. Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): end of the day all Day 2 session recordings will be available on the conf site under PROGRAM>click on the title to get to the overview and recording linke Moderator (Nancy White): http://www.technologyforcommunities.com Sue Hickton to Diana Taylor: yeah frantically finishing up stuff for my preso on Friday arvo Lesley Cioccarelli 1: Waving back! Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): Day 1 session recordings are available on the conf site now Jo Hart: LOL I use the vid at start so my students can see I' "real" Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): To close the vid just click on the icon on the right of the box Diana Taylor to Sue Hickton: I'm looking fwd to it - no pressure ;) ha! you'll be great ! Sue Hickton to Diana Taylor: :) did u see last years? cant remember - was a blur Diana Taylor to Sue Hickton: nope first time at this conference Sandra Harman-Smith 1: Dancing is so much more creative and fun Carole McCulloch: I love the concept of Dancing into the future rather than Marching Diana Taylor to Sue Hickton: but heard good things :) Sue Hickton to Diana Taylor: its great - some awesome stuff Sue Hickton: adore the graphics Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Woah Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): that's diff Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): and chook keeper Sue Hickton: LOL Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol ... Sue Hickton: try having a parrot Jo Hart: Yay I am a chook keeper and gardener too Sue Hickton: :) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White, Jenny Smith: all good so far Kathleen Zarubin 1 to Carole McCulloch: She sounds like another Gemini :) Sue Hickton: yes! Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Sorry folks but all private texts are viewable by moderators - just so you know. ;) Sue Hickton: ie stop bagging you Frankie? :P Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): lol Sue Sue Hickton: xoxox Carole McCulloch: Nancy I love the fact that you dip and flit from one connectiont to another - the butterfly syndrome - it impacts on someone on the other side of the world - me Julie Woodlock: I agree, the more we connect the more the need for solitude. Kathleen Zarubin 1 to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White, Jenny Smith: (no worries Frankie - did know just didn't want to bother rest of room - but won't do it too often I promise Sue Hickton: 2003-2004??? Stony River 1: keeping your distance? Sue Hickton: lol Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Jo did the online db with you in 2000 Marlene Manto: [sounds of creaking joints in the background] LOL Marlene Manto: :-) Michael Colenso: Digital Pioneers v Digital Natives Sue Hickton: good point Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): great point Nancy Carole McCulloch: absolutely - early beginnings in text based connections - still happens in forums now Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): people now stuggle with that Sue Hickton to Frankie Forsyth: /snap Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): online was Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): less that f2f KerryJ: people still do tho Kathleen Zarubin 1: ..... some ppl still 'think' that thou :( - just don't say it out loud as often Sue Hickton to KerryJ: oh hey hun! /hugs Moderator (Jenny Smith): New way of thinking of "imaginary friends" Sandra Harman-Smith 1: @Carol - yes it's still happening Julie Woodlock: who is the artist? KerryJ to Sue Hickton: :* Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Julie, Nancy is Julie Woodlock: wow Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): connect in diff ways now Heather Davis to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White, Jenny Smith: yes, technophobia has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with being afraid of not being able to work with it, of being left out or left behind. Carole McCulloch: we can get so many ideas every hour of the day if we 'harvest' strategically from our connections Kathleen Zarubin 1: I agree Julie - the 'art' / images are spectatular! - makes me feel more comfortable about my hand drawn stuff :) Heather Davis: yes, technophobia has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with being afraid of not being able to work with it, of being left out or left behind. Sue Hickton: lol rose grozdanic: i feel like the practices have narrowed - facebook has become the internet - lone ranging less common and therefore less likely to garner broader experience/insights... rose grozdanic: for the most part, yes Michael Coghlan: Tend to agree with that Rose. Estimated that 80% of the Net is Facebook rose grozdanic: more ppl go shopping than seeking, i reckon KerryJ: I think Apple has done that too Marlene Manto: Lots of people are using FB in education..."go where the students are" philosophy. KerryJ: It does show that people want to be where others are tho Sue Hickton: LOL Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol Moderator (Jenny Smith): lol Carole McCulloch: @Rose I believe that we have now 'prioritised' our connections into categories to try to make sense of the myriad of networks Jo Hart: neither do I LOL Lynn Huguenin 1: Neither does my mother at 80 years old Lynn Huguenin 1: But she does connect with her grand childrens rose grozdanic: @carolemc agree with you however i think that the network element has diluted the experiencing, seeking, doing stuff Kathleen Zarubin 1: I so agree with what u r saying - and stops the grandparents saying to grand kids - "You don't call me enough" - Kids do 'say hi' more often on FB :) Julie Woodlock: is it more ego centric than individual? rose grozdanic: solo learning is amazing - i know kids who have learned how to play excellent guitar from youtube - astonishing Jo Hart: we are now connected as a distributed network Sue Hickton: connectivism jo Jeremy Sorensen: Z gen can share feelings on FB more readily than any other way, even if its inappropriate. KerryJ: there is NOW Sue Hickton: is now Jo Hart: Most of us do both - I have closed group on fb for students Rae Jobst to Penny Neuendorf 3: Hi Penny Rae here good to see you here:) rose grozdanic: maybe the networking stuff feels more native/natural to us as a species, so perhaps i value/notice it less as a phenomena Moderator (Nancy White): http://change.mooc.ca/ Carole McCulloch: already signed up for that one Nancy Pamela McGowan: MOOC Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol moocs moocs everywhere :) Carole McCulloch: MOOC - Massive Open Online Course Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): can visualise you here nancy Sue Hickton: lol Moderator (Jenny Smith): love it KerryJ: My friend Dean's 5yrold and 10yr old produced a tutorial on Minecraft and uploaded it to YouTube Sue Hickton: i do new makeup techniques straight from youtube with laptop on sink in bathroom LOL Jo Hart: Just in time learning Jeremy Sorensen: @Jo - I didn't know you could have closed group on FB??? Marlene Manto: I was on Youtube on the weekend, trying to finally work out how to fold a fitted sheet so it fits into the cupboard. LOL Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): I too used YouTube to create the flash images for the conf site! Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): youtube is one of top search places now with FB and Google Kathleen Zarubin 1: yes Jo - I LOVE JIL . Sue Hickton: oh now THAT is a useful video Marlene Sue Hickton: heaps Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): masses rose grozdanic: :-) Carole McCulloch: Tech NOte: you can change the layout of your Elluminate window to see more of the chat. View, Layouts, Wide Layout Sandra Harman-Smith 1: @marlene - can you send me the link - I have the same problem rose grozdanic: THANK YOU CAROLE - i've been struggling for ages trying to work out how to do that but keep forgetting to ask! Sandra Stewart: cool rose grozdanic: bless!! :-) Jo Hart: @Jeremy - restricted to my students & no one else can see posts - unless fb have moved goalposta Marlene Manto: @Carole...thanks for the tip! I keep forgetting that. Greg Nockolds 1: Some Govt workplace’ firewall and policy issues may impede social network use, and whilst this is changing I feel that the competing pressures for our staff’s attention will still require “funnelling” of messages/notications etc through an existing/comfortable interface like email or intranet web site Kathleen Zarubin 1: (I was JUST thinking I hope u agree 'imitation is the greatest form of flattery! - I want to copy your idea :) Julie Woodlock: I think thee is a fine line between the "me" gen and indulging themselves and self motivated learning which is less indulging but really wanting to inquire. sorry i think i am getting too deep Carole McCulloch: Tech note: you can also expand the writing area in Chat, use the double headed arrow on the separation line. Jeremy Sorensen: @Jo - I'll have to look into that - you might get an email from me, cheers rose grozdanic: i agree with u jwoodlock Julie Woodlock: I love it nancy so much. and its simple visuals that works Pamela McGowan: @Julie as a Gen Y person I tread that fine line constantly Kathleen Zarubin 1: and I LOVE your little 'signiture' down the bottom :) Moderator (Jenny Smith): A picture tells a thousand words :-) Rae Jobst: love your drawings Nancy - they give a connection between people not just same old text Andrew Kernick 1: That's excellent Nancy Jo Hart: Can resize all Ellum windows - View Layouts locked uncheck this Lynn Huguenin 1: Also as observers the pictures allow us to react in our own way Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Thanks for all the tech hints Carole and Jo. :) Carole McCulloch: I use Technology Steward to define what I do - thanks to Digital Habitats :-) Julie Woodlock to Carole McCulloch: Carole this reminds me of your presentation at the end of 2002 in Adelaide Kathleen Zarubin 1: (sorry to keep going on about the images - but once u drew them I assume you coloured them by hand - and then 'scanned' them?) Rae Jobst: Digital Habitats really helps link technology and community - helps think about interplay between the two Carole McCulloch: :-) :-) Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol so COOL !!! :) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): mmm, changing environment (out of comfort zone) brings lots of new perspectives Rae Jobst: helps create an online identity as well Nancy Viv McWaters: Going out of our comfort zone is all disrupting our patterns about di Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): and also means the shift between the two brings comparison and learnign Adam Levy: In adult learning trainers AND students are often out of their comfort zone rose grozdanic: nothing wrong with "disrupting" - what's so great about rupting anyway... :-) Julie Woodlock: I have stopped looking at chat so I am not being distruptive otherwise i might miss nancy's words. rose grozdanic: but it needs to be a bit shocking to qualify as disrupting otherwise it's not disrupting :-) Jo Hart: I am trying to listen, watch chat, chat and Tweet LOL rose grozdanic: lol Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Diff too as people want to engage, not just learn passively Junita Lyon: Multi tasking Jo Viv McWaters: it's sometimes a paradox btwn shocking and nurturing! Jo Hart: people need some comfort zone time to establish new patterns ready to move on Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Absolutely Jo Rae Jobst: oh like that phrase - "in a world of 'and'" Kathleen Zarubin 1: .... yes sometimes I find myself on the phone talking through .. what we seeing / doing on the screen ... because person 'knows' the phone = comfortable Heather Davis: we're in a VUCA world - volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous--and we can work with that rather than try to order it or tame it. Julie Woodlock: O confess, i keep peeping Viv McWaters: me too - i'm always learning from imrov Rae Jobst: love the graphic Adam Levy: Phone can make a good fall back position if the tech fails too! Moderator (Jenny Smith): Go Peeps! Marlene Manto: You're doing an amazing job of mulit-tasking! Kathleen Zarubin 1: at another conference there was a tweet reader - who watched that medium = like 'co-facilitating :) Moderator (Nancy White): http://bevtrayner.com/base/docs/Wenger_Trayner_DeLaat_Value_creation.pdf Jo Hart: Multitasking is a prob for me when one of tasks is unrelated - what I am doing atm is synthesis Carole McCulloch: technology stewards can build the bridge from 'but' to 'and' Rae Jobst: your graphic says to me - "who is going to let go of their shore first" or will both let go and float off and create something scary but new Julie Woodlock: I am just screen grabbing your pics so i can review your points and saving them Kathleen Zarubin 1: ... or pull insome 'earth to fill in the whole - make a bridge :) Jo Hart: @Julie you can save screens & chat - File Save Junita Lyon: You can save the PPT Rae Jobst: @Kathleen - like that metaphor! Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Also the PPT will be made available after the session Moderator (Nancy White): http://bevtrayner.com/base/docs/Wenger_Trayner_DeLaat_Value_creation.pdf Julie Woodlock: thanks jo Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Sounds like a good read Julie Woodlock: it opens for us and we can copy nancy Kathleen Zarubin 1: (About the images again! - now I know the technique I am looking for your starting point and follow the lines - like a 'maze' ... :) Lynn Huguenin 1: Making a connection is the key Moderator (Nancy White): Type your learnings here Moderator (Nancy White): Or there KerryJ: Learning to listen and learn first - to embrace what people already know and learn from them Moderator (Nancy White): Or anywhere Carole McCulloch: thinking about the importance of language and imagery in making meaningful learning for a MOOC experience KerryJ: before leading Julie Woodlock: tensions between where learning is going and where are staff are at. how do we solve it. without threatening staff. Rae Jobst: for me - the learning is to relax about the technology - we don't necessarily have to be acros the myriad of options - try some and work alongside people to experiment with the tech - i like the bridging metaphor Moderator (Nancy White): Left a vs right a Lynn Huguenin 1: many ways to reach the same the destination but also many destinations Moderator (Nancy White): relax Rae Jobst: :) Kathleen Zarubin 1: Language - words - terms are so so so important Pamela McGowan: Grappling with the digital divide - providing access to info where there are so many barriers Moderator (Nancy White): A realm of gems in a room of 80 Kathleen Zarubin 1: Remember to have fun as well :) Viv McWaters: not everything works - so don't beat yourself up about it (although it's hard not to feel bad) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Absolutely Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): will do Rae Jobst: good question - wouldn't probably have paid a lot of attention until experiencing more of it Kathleen Zarubin 1: OH Vic - I like that!!! Sarah Stewart: Remembering that professionals may not be in the same place as I am in regards to learning, online learning, networking etc Carole McCulloch: currently there is an expectation for participants in a webinar to 'share' thoughts on whiteboard - an empowering action Sarah Stewart: Best way to "teach" is to model rose grozdanic: what's curl? Lynn Huguenin 1: @ Sarah Stewart great comment Kathleen Zarubin 1: yes what is CURL? Julie Woodlock: Modelling can still be intimidating. People think its your thing, not their thing rose grozdanic: kiss curl rose grozdanic: that's true julie Barbara Dieu to Michael Coghlan: hi there :-) Sarah Stewart: challenging comment, julie Rae Jobst: Interesting Julie - important thing to remember as not everyone is passionate about the possibilities :) rose grozdanic: that's prolly why they say that early adopters are better teachers than innovators Sandra Stewart: some people like to sit back and learn not throw ideas in Viv McWaters: avoid the 'teacher trance' - being seen as the 'expert' acknowledging that everyone has some wisdom to share Carole McCulloch: @Julie I still learn from your methods of 'thinking outside of the box' Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): Learn to let go :) Adam Levy: Remember some are digital natives and some are digital mirgants Julie Woodlock: so true frankie Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Going really well Nancy Sandra Harman-Smith 1: Yes Frankie Rae Jobst: @ Viv - like that phrase - "teacher trance" - will remember that with "the world of and" Sandra Stewart: Adam digital natives often don't know as much as we think because they use technology differently Kathleen Zarubin 1: here too :( Carole McCulloch: @Adam I like to think of us all as digital citizens on a moving continuum - we move around from one level to another - we lead, we learn, we follow Sarah Stewart: I do not agree with term 'digital native'-I don't think there is such a thing :) Adam Levy: Exactly sandra, they learn differently. Jo Hart: Agree Sarah - know too many oldies like me who find it easy Barbara Dieu: @Sarah neither do I Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): I prefer your thoughts that some have entered the digital stream at diff points an so have diff experiences Carole McCulloch: absolutely Frankie - I concur Sandra Stewart: Adam there experience is often more social than 'learning' so have to relearn tools from another viewpoint Sarah Stewart: like that Frankie Michael Coghlan: http://www.amazon.com/Deconstructing-Digital-Natives-Technology-Literacies/dp/0415889936 Jo Hart: It is about the "outward urge" to explore new rather than dig immig etc Barbara Dieu: slow teaching :-) Adam Levy: Again, I agree Sandra. Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): absolutely Barbara Junita Lyon: It stops isolation in teaching Michael Coghlan: :) rose grozdanic: very hard tho Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): slowing the wave ;) Barbara Dieu to rose grozdanic: Rooooose! Hugs Carole McCulloch: @Barbara love that comment - I think about slow cooking and how that is important for the food - so slow teaching, talking, thinking provides time for the learner Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): dipping in and out to suit your time frame an dneeds rose grozdanic: it's like a kind of bulemia at times, the gathering and grazing Rae Jobst: like that nancy - duality rather than dichotomy rose grozdanic to Barbara Dieu: yes you too my dear - lovely to see you in here :-) Julie Woodlock: the space between the 2 gives us new shifts. It worked for feminism but can be overdone. I use binaries to force myself out of my comfort zone Rae Jobst: that's the challenge - how do you measure the learning power of silence - bureaucracy could not cope!!! Adam Levy: I was wondering about that (tacit knowledge vs just knowledge) rose grozdanic to Barbara Dieu: howard jarche posted something on twitter today about networks vs hierarchies that was saying something similar Heather Davis: embracing this paradox too, esp at institutional level. Kathleen Zarubin 1: and they often then label or come back to the word 'quaility' ... which can really act like a STOP sign .. rose grozdanic to Barbara Dieu: sorry b - meant to send that to the room - i'm still an elluminate newbie cos it usually doesn't work for me Sandra Stewart: Australia is the same Barbara Dieu: Control happens in the curriculum, in the rules, in the teachers'room - emergence happens in the classroom and we must be aware of it when it happens and ride the wave Julie Woodlock: it does help us shift our thought though chris froissard: sometimes "structure" becomes the end rather than the means Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): be aware of the diff roles we play and feel comfortable moving among them at diff times Carole McCulloch: Q. Nancy what could we use (metaphorically) to help us keep that balance? Like the balancing figure with the balance rod in your diagram. Tim Morrissey to Adam Levy: Hi Adam!! Junita Lyon: Cutting edge Rae Jobst: it's designing a structure that can allow for emerging spaces and processes, and therefore knowledge in unexpected areas Heather Davis: border crossing Carole McCulloch: :-) that's a great answer Adam Levy to Tim Morrissey: Hi Tim Jeremy Sorensen: we don't have to be on the "bleeding edge" to influence. there's plenty of people who are nowhere near the edge Kathleen Zarubin 1: yes Chris and 'strucutre' on paper to get the tick ... - but 'open learning in practice ;) Viv McWaters: another metaphor is from liminality - the monkey bar - hanging on and letting go to move forward Junita Lyon: Leraning and communication rose grozdanic: yes - liminality - fabulous concept Heather Davis: great viv.... Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): love it Viv rose grozdanic: so much room to move/create in those spaces between things Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): is there someone to catch me? Heather Davis: i think we need to stop being too defensive when defending our position.... Kathleen Zarubin 1: true Heather :) Pamela McGowan: Stop restricting access to social media Julie Woodlock: when using the text, dont forget to use the enter key. it helps Sarah Stewart: Stop trying to pressurize people to join me...have Twitter..FB...blog etc Sarah Stewart: People do their own thing... Sandra Harman-Smith 1: Do we have to stop something? Can't we approach from a different perspective to make the cahnge? Pamela McGowan: Start looking at digital citizenship (rights and responsibilities online) Adam Levy: +1 "Stop overselling the tech"!! Sarah Stewart: Stop thinking social media is the answer to everything...the cure to all ills? Adam Levy: Yes that too! Heather Davis: internet access has just become a human right for all - UN Kathleen Zarubin 1: wow Heatherr .. Sarah Stewart: thats what I said, Nancy...people say social media is the cure all but it isn;t Julie Woodlock: Binaries are powerful! Sarah Stewart: :) rose grozdanic: 51% of ppl polled on one site i looked at didn't agree with the UN thing - i was shocked Kathleen Zarubin 1: what is the 'sickess'? we r tryign to cure anyway?? Julie Woodlock: because they give us a space to rethink Pamela McGowan: @Heather should this access be free? Is there free access in every town in Oz? Digital divide issue Viv McWaters: stop focusing on learning outcomes and start focusing on emergent and seredititous learning Julie Woodlock: it worked for feminism but went to far rose grozdanic: yes - the "sickness" is part of bulemia - the feeling that we ought to know/do more than we do - i think that's the biggest trap for passionate practitioners Sarah Stewart: start walking the talk Adam Levy: @ rose grozdanic: They probably see it as a luxuary rather than a right? Maybe? Kathleen Zarubin 1: I like 'being braver' abotu showing others :) Julie Woodlock: we need to really slide the ruler between the binaries Kathleen Zarubin 1: oohhh Rose - interesting :) Viv McWaters: there's no such this as too much chocolate! Moderator (Nancy White): http://cogdogblog.com/stuff/etug11/ Barbara Dieu: Amazing Stories of Openness is great! Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Just over 5 mins to go Nancy. This is brilliant! Kathleen Zarubin 1: yes ... like Appreiciative Enquirey Carole McCulloch: Wow that link has opened a portal for me - I love the imagery there Heather Davis: yes Kathleen, App Enquiry is a strengths based approach Jennifer Saggers: being open to reflective thinking from all stakeholders rose grozdanic: is that michael coghlan in that grey squiggly thing? i'm sure i can see one of his ears... Barbara Dieu: hahaha Michael Coghlan: qUE??? Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: lol rose rose grozdanic: lol Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): lol rose rose grozdanic: i'm itching to start drawing now... those pictures of yours are great nancy Carole McCulloch: oh yes a notion of elasticity appeals to me Sarah Stewart: I have to go. Thank you, Nancy-a wonderful session as always Carole McCulloch: me too @Rose - I want to try some too Kathleen Zarubin 1: .... and SELF Learning .. :) Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): sometimes it takes quite a while for results to show Julie Woodlock: frankie, i feel like it takes me years. chris froissard: is education only about money? or does it have other benefits for the individual? Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): lol Carole McCulloch: reinvent ourselves Julie Woodlock: nancy Sandra Harman-Smith 1: Thanks Nancy - will definitely revisit this presentation. have to leave now. Julie Woodlock: nancy i love your words and your drawings. rose grozdanic: me too Carole McCulloch: need to know where to learn how to draw online Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Kerry W Gubb: Brilliant, Nancy - thanks. Will re-engage with this recording Moderator (Nancy White): Alphachimp studios is piloting a course right now, Carole. More coming in Sept Junita Lyon: Continue to help others build there e-capabilitys Pamela McGowan: I want to explore the power of communities CoP for those on the wrong side of the digital divide. David.Leek 1: money makes the education go round Moderator (Nancy White): +++ Pamela Carole McCulloch: excellent Nancy will check it out rose grozdanic: carole just ask one of your grandkids - i've learned heaps from my 7 year old neice Lynn Huguenin 1: encourage our teachers to move away from focussing on online content and think more about online activity Moderator (Nancy White): Agree - children's drawing books -- a great world of possibility (talk about keep learning, eh?) Pamela McGowan to Nancy White: I am hoping to move to Seattle in a couple of years - would love to do some work with you Michael Coghlan: Good one Lynn! Viv McWaters: Thanks nancy - great to haer your voice :) and a fantastic warm-up for me for a weekend of convos about changing the world! Lynn Huguenin 1: thanks Michael Moderator (Nancy White): ++ Lynn! Junita Lyon: http://gippslandregion.spruz.com to continue to build my region a PLN Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol cool idea Rose .. they could be co-creators :) Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Stony River 1: sweet interaction rose grozdanic: barbara why don't u post that link of that site where you translated some stuff Heather Davis: Thanks Nancy, Heather Davis: Bye Viv and Tony :-) Michael Coghlan: :) Michael Coghlan: I woner why??? rose grozdanic: yes - that's pretty amazing frankie Debbie Grace 1: Probably because of your slides!! Barbara Dieu to rose grozdanic: http://universalsubtitles.org ? Carole McCulloch: I am absolutely inspired once again from listening to you Nancy - you really know to energise, enervate and engage rose grozdanic: it's that inner 5 year old going "yay!!! i can come out again" Heather Davis: yes, modelling gives us confidence to try it.... Moderator (Frankie Forsyth): what a great idea Jennifer Saggers: we need a splat tool! Jo Hart: I use a drawing tablet with wbd when teaching maths but dislike pen tool cos can't draw rose grozdanic: ipad and touch technologies will continue to make this better/easier/more intuitive Kathleen Zarubin 1: I like the blue one 'take risks' ... lol & it is a risk to use the free hand one Junita Lyon: Some great tips to good facilitation here Carole McCulloch: we loved working with popplett for collaborative drawing Jo Hart: I always use colour text Jennifer Saggers: the fairy wand is good! rose grozdanic: yes - the invitation - the permission Julie Woodlock: nor do i Jo Hart: my students draw on board often - all colours & often highlighter Rae Jobst: great demo of facilitation - great session Nancy - thanks so much !! :) :) Junita Lyon: Love the way this session feels ,very inspiring Julie Woodlock: i always am with you nancy rose grozdanic: this is the first time i haven't surfed the web while attending an online event... should i admit that? lol Moderator (Nancy White): I'm greatful for the opportunity. Thank you so much Kathleen Zarubin 1: I am smiling here - and not even quite sure why ??- just feel happy! Michael Coghlan: Thank you Nancy - just wonderful Moderator (Nancy White): :-) Moderator (Jyothi Jayaram): totally agree with Frankie, thank you so much Nancy :) Moderator (Nancy White): Rose, i take that as high compliment! Moderator (Nancy White): LOL a universe of fire flies rose grozdanic: purdy... Rae Jobst: thanks frankie! Kathleen Zarubin 1: great point Rose! Moderator (Nancy White): Thanks for your precious time and attention Renee Wagner: thank you, it was wonderful :) rose grozdanic: great job everyone Stony River 1: Thank You Nancy et al ;-):-);-) Moderator (Nancy White): Bye bye! Junita Lyon: Thankyou Moderator (Nancy White): wine time here Carole McCulloch to Julie Woodlock: thanks for your earleier comment about 2002, point taken Moderator (Frankie Forsyth) to Frankie Forsyth, Jyothi Jayaram, Nancy White: Nancy that was fabulous, I have to go fac the next session but will email you separately. :) Gisele Santambrogio 1: Fantastic and inspirational Barbara Dieu: Bye enjoy! Kathleen Zarubin 1: lol u have earnt it nacy - enjoy :) Moderator (Nancy White): Thanks to Frankie, JOythi ad hosts Moderator (Nancy White): Thanks, J Moderator (Nancy White): I cant seem to download them at the moment, so I'd really appreciate that Carole McCulloch: bye all, I will be onine for the FLL gathering tonight