Saturday, February 19, 2005

Blogging in Education Panel at Northern Voice


The blogging in education panel at Northern Northern Voice: Stephen, Laura, Seb and Bryan on the Blogging in Education Panel. "Sometimes learning is the only option some people have. It gives some people options they never had." (Stephen Downes)

Here are a few more quotes...

"Associative intuitive cross-linking. Getting into blogging pulls me out of an established disciplinary domain. Making sense of that in a academic career can be difficult. My ideal is iterative publishing, but the tools are not there for it. Weblogging tools aren’t’ designed for iterative authoring. Chronological. Don’t include editorial tools. To be able to author in small bits, then meta author and flow it together into a journal publication or course context. Difficult to get above the dynamics of the blogosphere and pull that off. When it comes to peer review within the academic area, publishing in a blog is not yet accepted." (Laura Trippi)

Blogs are very live tools. I send them to LiveJournal and in 30 minutes they have elaborate sites. That’s not necessarily what my colleagues thing. I look forward to the day when someone gets tenure for academia. You can follow someone’s thinking on their blog. A public intellectual face that you would not get in the F2F space. Every new technology has a romanticizeation phase. When CMC showed up people worried about the lack of the intimacy of the classroom. Here’s another romanticization. “Peer review is great.” When I first got into this I thought this was going to transform education. Now I think it will be a war of attrition before we transform education. (Bryan Alexander)

We have to redefine for ourselves first and foremast what constitutes quality. Being accepted by 2 out or 3 referees who won’t even reveal who they are is not a measurement of quality. I got my job at NRC based on the footprint that I had online. Not simply the volume of my own writing, but on the ripple effect. If you write well, if you have something to say, if you put it online for people to read, you will get a wider readership than any journal article would and you will be recognized for it. Maybe not formally, but what is the purpose of the formalization? Define quality for yourself. Don’t let hidden review committees tell you what is good and what is bad. (Downes)

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2 Comments:

Anonymous Bud Gibson said...

It has to be noted that there is a network effect both in academia and online. High linking in the network is not a measure of quality, though we often take it to be. It is a measure of connectedness.

Connectedness could come from deservedly high status in a group. It could be the result of a cabale. It could be the result of comment spam on people not using the no-follow attribute.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Nancy White said...

Bud, I think it worth talking about status. First, I think we avoid talking about it, but it exists. You talk about "deservedly high status." Can you say more about what you mean?

5:43 PM  

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